Ever get so fed up with government bureaucracy, stupid laws or high taxes that you just wish you could take to the high seas and form your own little country? That is, essentially, exactly what The Seasteading Institute is proposing.

Here is my chat with Liz Lacy, TSI’s Director of Development, about the organization’s idea to develop ocean-worthy platforms on which people can live permanently outside the jurisdictions of existing nations. Warning: this could alter your thinking! (Approx. 23 minutes.)